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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net -2 points 16 hours ago (55 children)

I mean, yeah, they do kinda do that.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 14 hours ago (14 children)

Yeah I feel like, BE's takes on China are pretty shit on the regular but honestly I would be lying if I said I didn't feel like this sometimes. Most leftists on this site have agreed at one point or another that China's international policies have a history of being.... Not the best, but the second you criticize the lack of any real support for Palestine, all of a sudden you get a 10 pages essay about why their strategy of inaction is 10D chess and how they have to keep doing business with Israel and having their politicians literally praise trade deals with them in order to somehow eventually prevent the single last Palestinian child from being murdered.

Like we get it, they can't really do shit because the west, and none of us is ready to die in nuclear hellfire. It's the simple truth, but damn if they don't make it come off like they really just don't give a single shit about stopping it.

As bleak as it is, in my personal opinion, Palestine is doomed. The world will fail to do anything till it's too late for them. The only powers that CAN stop it, have all but blatantly admitted they won't. I know this will piss a lot of people off, and we should all still support them to the last, but I just don't see this genocide being stopped in time.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The burden for China to have to do something against the wests genocide when they have nothing to do with Palestine, even historically is weird. Despite that the diplomatic perspective of China has always been one of contesting the Golan heights, supporting North Korea and historic support of the PLO when it was a marxist entity.

To say they are not anti-colonial is wrong, they are also pro-trade and diplomancy - im not going to get mad at them for mirroring what the US does which is just bomb them.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 hours ago

My issue wasn't that China isn't doing anything. I get it. I wouldn't get my countrymen in a war, and probably nuked unless there was no other possible option. Certainly not when Isn'treal would just nuke Gaza on its way out anyway. It would be starting WW3 and not actually save anyone in the process. But damn some of the optics and statements they make really make you feel disheartened, and pissed off. When I see big statements by the ambassador praising their trade relations and how they are such good partners and yada yada, it can get rather infuriating. "Oh, so glad you got those priorities right there buddy. So glad you are such happy trading partners with the genocidal child rapists. Good for you."

Imagine your neighbor is regularly beating their wife and raping their kid in front of the whole neighborhood and then you make a comment at how great their last BBQ was. That's what it feels like and IDC what people say or how they justify it. It's fucking sucks and I will say it fucking sucks.

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