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"As revolutionaries, we don't have the right to say that we're tired of explaining. We must never stop explaining. We also know that when the people understand, they cannot but follow us. In any case, we, the people, have no enemies when it comes to peoples. Our only enemies are the imperialist regimes and organizations." Thomas Sankara, 1985


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[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (8 children)
  1. no it is not
  2. treating international trade like consumer choice opt out is the bone-headed take that is unbecoming of anyone who considers anti-imperialism as a science. That's the most polite I can be (like BDS barely works - like it hits bottom lines of companies as best case scenario and does fuck all for ethnic cleansing and genocide. The reason we have to even consider as a litmus test for western politicians is because westerners are so fucking retrograde and backwards)
  3. pathetic does not even begin to describe the racism here against the Chinese (and let's be honest, against the Palestinians too by offsetting any guilt and playing perfomative politics. "Raising awareness" politics is apparently radical)
[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Do you at least harbor some amount of disappointment for how little China has distanced themselves from "Israel"?

I'm not going to sit here and say China should start deploying troops to Tel Aviv, but isn't it fair to be a little disappointed with how little they've browbeaten "Israel"?

On the other hand, I would have absolutely no rebuttal if you say something like "its not our place (as members of the Imperial core), to be disappointed in a nation that doesn't want to clean up a mess that we created". I could potentially see the orientalism in this perspective.

Or, maybe you reject the entire premise and DO think that China has been effectively browbeating "Israel"?

Honest questions.

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Do you at least harbor some amount of disappointment for how little China has distanced themselves from “Israel”?

Any disappointment I may have had is because of leftover liberalism ie my own ignorance and ineptitude. My own anger comes from how little has been done by the peoples collectively as westerners/vassal states.

The likes of Soviet Union and Cuba has done things that should jam more with western mores of what "socialism" is outside of their borders and they fucking suffered for it AND don't get the credit they deserved.

Their peoples died en masse for the world so the rest of us can write fucking memes.

Whereas the one country that learned what that overleverage costs is the only reason we are talking here today about a realistic end of Western Hegemony. Marxism-leninism is a science and we are so backwards that we do not have the courtesy of humanity to learn it.

Or, maybe you reject the entire premise and DO think that China has been effectively browbeating “Israel”?

I suspect they are but I want to currently submit to the concrete evidence we do have rather than the speculation of what may be likely (ie high impact but low visbility eg dual use metal export ban).

The simple answer is the US is orders of magnitude worse than Israel and if one understands despite that China had to trade with the US and is avoiding hot war with it then it is telling when folks not get why the same should extend elsewhere of said hegemony. If one wants to downplay the only country to drop nuclear bombs on civilians twice then that is on them to take that risk not China's.

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Any disappointment I may have had is because of leftover liberalism ie my own ignorance and ineptitude. My own anger comes from how little has been done by the peoples collectively as westerners/vassal states.

The likes of Soviet Union and Cuba has done things that should jam more with western mores of what “socialism” is outside of their borders and they fucking suffered for it AND don’t get the credit they deserved.

Their peoples died en masse for the world so the rest of us can write fucking memes.

Beautifully written.

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