XMPP is miles better (freer, more private) than IsraelChat (Matrix) and obviously all the proprietary normalfag garbage already...
Acting like XMPP is like Discord 2.0 is just divide and conquer.
All discussion of and related to XMPP, the eXtensible Messaging and Presence Protocol
XMPP is miles better (freer, more private) than IsraelChat (Matrix) and obviously all the proprietary normalfag garbage already...
Acting like XMPP is like Discord 2.0 is just divide and conquer.
freer
i just told you how its not, unless you mean "free software"
private
debatable
Matrix
sucks
Please tell me how XMPP has less freedom and privacy than Discord, Telegram, WhatsApp, etc.
it should be abandoned by anyone who cares about these things. Not only does it leak a fuckton of metadata by default
people, even in so-called hackers/nerds/privacy communities, tend to use whatever's popular and convenient at the moment, not what's "good"
until alternatives (https://xkcd.com/927/) become just as convenient and have user-friendly clients (including mobile ones), you won't convince anyone to use them, no matter what you say.
the bandwagon effect might work, like when a famous person encourages using a particular messaging app (https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1347165127036977153?lang=en).
there is a global censorship blocklist ran by a single person ( see xmppbl ) named jonas, which is implemented by a large portion of servers on the network and supposedly many clients, though i havent verified which clients implement it yet. for a “decentralized” network, there should not be a central authority that gets to decide who can interact with fellow users or other servers
Not that I'm defending those blacklists, but it doesn't change the fact that server operators aren't forced to implement them, right?
people, even in so-called hackers/nerds/privacy communities, tend to use whatever’s popular and convenient at the moment, not what’s “good”
fair point, but odd of you to assume that XMPP is whats popular at the moment, when its probably the most least used thing. i mean, just join a few chats, youre bound to see mostly the same names in every roster. maybe its convenient, especially for phone users, but thats neither here nor there. XMPP clients themselves have alot of issues, that is no secret. also, if youre relying on a "smart" phone for communications, how much do you really care about privacy? i bring this question up because you said "user-friendly clients (including mobile ones)". as for "hacker/nerd" communities, ive managed to find much more productive ones on IRC, and barely any active ones on XMPP, especially if you have more niche interests.
Not that I’m defending those blacklists, but it doesn’t change the fact that server operators aren’t forced to implement them, right?
yes, youre correct. but its still a problem when a large portion of the federated network implements it, because even if you dont use it, your server or JID can be added to it, and youre still blocked from a large portion of the network.
Edit: a solution might be to try and convince other server operators to stop using it, but good luck with that.