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We need a meta-project (self.tech)

submitted 2 weeks ago by diggy to c/tech

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Currently, if someone has a shiny idea (no matter whether it's software, political, or whatever else) it often just remains in his mind because there is no easy way to get anything done with it. Or sometimes the person performs a Rambo for a few months on some website, git repo, or whatever - and then it dies.

I want to eliminate this common pipeline, and make it easy to create projects (or find them if they already exist), join them, develop them, maybe provide crypto rewards, progress tracking, etc. Every shiny new idea would fit into this framework. And it would help it not die. But I don't know how exactly to do it. I suspect the components for it already exist, it's just a matter of putting them together.

We could have a database spread by torrents or other decentralized protocol that would list all the existing projects to join. And it might be hooked up to some website that would provide an UI for comments, crypto rewards, and progress tracking. The point of all this to me, is so that human effort and ingenuity isn't wasted because it's just too hard to launch. Which is what's commonly going on today. The Rambo loses steam and disappears.

What do you think?

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[–] lostuser 3 points 5 days ago

As for this idea, it sounds alot like that monero development program which has progress trackers and rewards, which does seem to work somewhat well for getting stuff done, atleast in the monero community.

[–] moeloli 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That doesn't sound bad but it sounds a bit vague.

[–] diggy 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it is just a concept now and the technical details remain to be decided. But let me try to provide more depth.

Basically, your mom gets a shiny new idea and what does she do? Make a git repo or website? The idea is she gets onto the framework, using an in-built search engine to see if such a project was already conceived. Then, joins easily, or is able to comment, see progress, and donate crypto - all in one framework, one software. We could leverage tags for checking if similar projects have been conceived, or even an LLM.

There should also be an easy way to advertise your project to other people in the framework. And to spread updates to people in a decentralized way, maybe picking up the keys concept from Freenet - https://github-wiki-see.page/m/hyphanet/wiki/wiki/Freenet-Key. It should also have an in-built way of adding communication means, PGP keys, etc. And progress tracking to motivate people.

The thing should also be relatively censorship resistant, and accessible by web browser or a terminal program if someone wants that. But also spam-resistant, for which we could use a web of trust type system, or a downvote / upvote system.

So far, all of these steps are up to whoever manages the project to setup. I want all these to already be set up for them, so that the actual ideas receive the focus. Basically something like anti-gatekeeping, making running projects accessible to anyone.

[–] laki 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree. It should also have a feature that allows for project requests to be submitted. It shkuld2be relatibely immune to spam or other nonsense.

I feel like something community related could be incredibly powerful. It is pretty hard to organise information among a group of people these days I think.

How do you plan to get this started?

[–] diggy 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Might try to code a makeshift thing at some point. Or at least show how I imagine it working. Then, if people find value in it, they might contribute. Yet very likely, it will just end up in a pile of endless failed ideas. This community isn't big enough.

[–] lostuser 2 points 5 days ago

Would you rather have a big community, or a few people who actually are competent? The problem with having a big community is that it becomes diluted with irrelevant people and eventually enshittified, as seen with your previous chat. It would make more sense to focus on building connections to actual competent and like minded people, instead of having a big place for discord privacy refugees and the like.

[–] laki 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why don't we just make a wiki? Everyone can have an account as long as it is approved, any spammers can have their account banned, certain sections can be locked off, etc. I think that would be a great idea.

[–] diggy 2 points 5 days ago

What wiki software do you suggest? I don't think it provides everything I'm imagining, but I can check it out.